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"One of the things people say to me ' Can you do it? You know, i don't really have a budget, It won't take you too long, right, you can just whip it out, right? NO. For me, in order to do that drawing, even if it takes me 10 minutes to do, the reality is it's taken me FORTY YEARS and 10 MINUTES TO DO, because of all of my EXPERIENCE, and that's what's so important to understand that this is YOUR energy and this is YOUR time... These people who are asking you to do this stuff for free, you think they're getting paid? OF COURSE they're getting paid. This happens and this why people do this. This is why there's so many STARVING ARTISTS out there."

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walderworld Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
love this man !

And that's right !!

It s what i m telling my students !!
go creative people !
Sour-Shock Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Student General Artist
Wow, now I'm kind of scared to post artwork on DA now ._.
soliton Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2013  Professional General Artist
Nicely put.
Core-Point Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2013
Thanks for posting the video up.
avirextin Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
My art isn't good enough to be paid for. ^^;

I always tend to do stuff for free. (Then again, it's not big companies I do it for. Just the school newspaper and stuff like that.)
FelipeSmith Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Speaking TROOF! haha

Righteous post, Playboy! ;)
theartistenrique Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Word the F UP!
adony Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
Thanks for the post! Definetly needed to be said, and he did so very articulately!
joeyoconnor Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
Can't agree more. I can tell you've been in the biz for some years. Bottom line, as an artist you only get paid for productivity. Keep in mind most people have jobs where half the time they're paid for showing up. Artists have to produce and even then they sometimes don't get paid. My father had a 40 year career as a electrical engineer. He told me point blank, half the time he did nothing that was of value to the company. But, in the end, he survived 8 years of layoffs till he voluntarily retired. He was one of their best people. Half the time did nothing productive. Imagine what the others who got laid off actually did and pick up a pay check every friday. People will f@#%$ you if given the chance. Everyone will, it's human nature to devalue the gifted ones. They think you love what you do so you'll do it for free. You see most people do a job they couldn't care less about. They feel to love what you do makes it payment enough. Never forget, as long as you can make you're art, you're worth 50 brain dead business people, you're a creative thinker, a person who can think visually,. this is a special skill that's not teachable. Never forget how unusual that is. You're worth 50 laywers. 50 plumbers. And they all get paid brothers. Don't think because you can think this way others can. They can't. Believe me. They don't understand it at all.They think your a freak. They think your not wise to the ways of the world because you still have the abilty to dream. They haven't dreamt since their childhood if at all. Money up front. Money before completion. Not your friend buddy. If you get even a wiff of "hey buddy ole pal, there's a lot work down the road" walk! You can sometimes determine how people t reat you. If you treat yourself so way, people read you and decide they can take advantage of you. You are valuable, put a value on tyourself and build it up. You'll be amazed when you insist on respect you get it. leave relationships that aren't valuable quickly and abruptly, don't stay in touch with users. make new relationships with people who repsect you, they'll lead to other who respect you.
Sharkmouth-Monkeypaw Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Professional General Artist
Nah LeSean, don't eat me alive bro...
estrellavega Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
As someone who's done graphic design work for free in my younger, right-after-college, days, I can attest that people who don't pay you have no respect for your skill and time. I think the reason I did that was that in college nobody taught the business side of design and so I didn't know how to respond. I thought to get my foot in the door I had to be wiling to do free jobs. And also I didn't have self-esteem in regards to my design skills.
jam-illustrated Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
damn. this message is so real.
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EderLunaC Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
i´m agree!!
this it´ll step by step
but we have to start right now!!
Leonidas666 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
twasdandish Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013
artists need to smarten up and stop starving so much. theres so many ways to apply your art for good money. I have a master plan! I'm not telling.
mterry4 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist

randomacity Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013

Was just studying art history, and I actually know straight up where this mentality/ideology of the artist came from!!!! Interesting story:

So there's this art critic name John Ruskin. Pretty cool dude, really helps support a lot of artists that the public didn't like. Unfortunately he gets pretty old and gets senile. This new painter named James Whistler comes onto the stage. He does wild paintings. John Ruskin doesn't like how they look so different and "simple," which is really too bad since Ruskin supported people who did many works that were so similar to Whistler's paintings Here's the painting Ruskin hated (the painting measures 24 3/4 x 18 3/8 inches)

Around Whistler's time, the phrase "art for art's sake" was coined, of which Whistler greatly approved. However much of the general public despised this, and Ruskin's scathing reviews were not helping. Whistler's career is going down the toilet, so Whistler sues Ruskin for libel. In court the following conversation goes down between Ruskin's lawyer (Holker) and Whistler himself:

Holker: "What is the subject of Nocturne in Black and Gold: The Falling Rocket?"
Whistler: "It is a night piece and represents the fireworks at Cremorne Gardens."
Holker: "Not a view of Cremorne?"
Whistler: "If it were A View of Cremorne it would certainly bring about nothing but disappointment on the part of the beholders. It is an artistic arrangement. That is why I call it a nocturne...."
Holker: "Did it take you much time to paint the Nocturne in Black and Gold? How soon did you knock it off?"
Whistler: "Oh, I 'knock one off' possibly in a couple of days – one day to do the work and another to finish it..."
Holker: "The labour of two days is that for which you ask two hundred guineas?"
Whistler: "No, I ask it for the knowledge I have gained in the work of a lifetime.

BOOM! Roasted. This argument is used by artist's everywhere, even today (as you see in the video).

Anyway, I thought it'd be interesting to share this story, hope you enjoyed ;)
DripDraw Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Cool man!
BrokenedGallows Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist
Real talk
AlphaCMT Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
Kudos to Mr. Silver for taping the message. It's totally ON point. Kudos to everyone else who's tweeting/tumblr/Facebooking it all over the place. I WILL not do ANYthing on "spec". I WILL NOT agree to payment on "back end deals", or "once the project is published". I do the work, I get paid. It's as simple as that.
EymBee Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Student General Artist
Saw this on youtube,he speaks the truth
DarthSkooba Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
Awesome, we need to band together as artist and stop setting the bar so low on payment because we're all wanting to compete for work. Demand some kinda hourly wage set at the minimum pay rate and let's start having each other's backs so we can stop flipping cheeseburgers and start doing things we love!!
bam217 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Loved this on tumblr...very helpful and informative.
mistermoster Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
That's so true. I translated it to spanish in order to spread it in my country.
Inkthinker Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
If something's getting made, then someone's getting paid. Shouldn't it be you?
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Bbedlam Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Someone posted this a few days ago over on Facebook and I've seen it popping up all over the place. Which is a good thing. Glad to see the message is being spread around, because it's an important one.
elena-chan3 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
I agree with you, very well said ^^
BookerJ Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013   Digital Artist
Man... I thought the "eff u, pay me" video was real. This was real on a different level. I dig what he's saying though. Back to the grind!
Kurotoboe Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I told this to my aunt and she tells me that i should do it because I love her and it would help her. And I still haven't drawn anything yet.
Miraclekid92 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
well said
Nukilik Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Student Filmographer
Very well said
andrewk Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
The moment I read the first sentence, I immediately knew what brought this up. :)
philbourassa Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I've used that exact same plumber analogy in the past... love it.
EderLunaC Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
you guys have much influence in this business!
and of course be respectful with your work is very important
you guys keep doing it!!
spicemaster Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
Thanks man, I'm gonna watch all his videos, his advice is very important.
Mihorrorshow Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013   Filmographer
salison Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thanks for sharing this! It’s such an impacting message that we all need to hear. Can’t help but admire Stephen Silver for how much passion he has for what he does and what he believes in. Such a huge influence on the artist community, and I’m so thankful to have had the privilege to meet him last year. Amazing artist, amazing man.
ArtistMeli Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Amen to that. This is such an important message.
newtman001 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
I've just learned that another ploy is "payment on the back end". It bothers me that people who SHOULD KNOW BETTER, who have been in management for years, want to try to foist that shit off on us. Fuck You. CONTRACT OR NO WORK.
JoshuaCovey Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
I've posted this video anywhere and everywhere I could think of! Great message, from a great man!
klid19 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
he's keeping it so real.
juanstewart Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
Man, this message is spreading like wildfire, don’t put it out!
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