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The conventional Anime style (big eyes, large heads & proportions) origin traces back to Osamu Tezuka (1928-1989/Astro Boy, Kimba The White Lion, Black Jack), unanimously known as 'The Godfather of Anime' who was heavily influenced by the style's of Max Fleischer's BETTY BOOP & Disney's BAMBI. Anime's signature style was derived from American animation styles.

See how we influence each other?
  • Listening to: YEEZUS/ BLACK SKINHEADS
  • Reading: BLACK DYNAMITE SEASON 2 SCRIPTS
  • Watching: YOZAKURA QUARTET OVA
  • Playing: THE GAME OF LIFE
  • Eating: CAREFULLY
  • Drinking: WATER
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DREWELBI Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013  Professional General Artist
In animation school they told me that the influence was snow white as it was the first disney flick released which featured larger eyes that they felt like mimicking and fell in love with. To each their own I guess.
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klydekiss Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013   Digital Artist
Amen. I'm tired of people always saying Japans better than us, they are more creative and ect. I'm not Japanese and I'm an aspiring artist. I'm influenced by Western and Japanese art but when I tell my friends this they laugh and go " ew western why would you be inspired by that?" 

Its annoying
We do influence each other. We look at Japan and Japan looks at us 
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jaredjlee Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2013   General Artist
I have known this for a few years, but a lot of people don't.

Seems like it all came full circle with the Little Nemo movie.
A Japanese anime of a early 1900's comic strip by one of the first animators.
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BookerJ Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2013   Digital Artist
Dope. Everything moves in circles
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JarodCPillustration Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student General Artist
That's funny, a visiting cartoonist told my class the same thing only a year ago.
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Dreamerwstcoast Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013   Traditional Artist
Comes around...goes around.
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JoaoLemos Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013
Absolutely, LeSean. This reminds me of how Kurosawa's super-seminal "Seven Samurai" was itself a nod to the Western genre, later being remade as a western in The Magnificent Seven.
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Leonidas666 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Everything is a remix" :)
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Dave-Wilkins Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Wow man thanks for this can I post this knowledge @ an upcoming art show?
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ScatterBrainiac Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The more you know!!!!!
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JosephDiF Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Whoa!
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theGrungeWerX Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
What gets me is how the nerds always complain about things being "authentic anime", as though it were some PURE form of true Japanese animation as opposed to just animation in general. The funny thing is, most of the arguments they give have to do with who produced it, but the people doing the arguing usually don't even know who's behind the production. I mean, there's ton of "authentic anime" actually being produced by korean animation companies/studios, so is that no longer authentic anime? Then there's the joint efforts between USA and Japan studios to produce anime, so this whole "authentic anime" argument is foundationally stupid and totally nerd-based. I remember a journal you posted in the past (at least I think it was you) where a Japanese anime director was asked if they considered Boondocks authentic anime and he said YES.

What would the nerds have to say to THAT?
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Uberbiggie Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2013  Hobbyist
I think it depends on what people view as "authentic anime". There are so many out there. Can you really call those people nerds who question what the conventional style of anime or "authentic" is when it has evolved over the years?
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theGrungeWerX Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
My question is, what "rules" define what authentic anime is? Usually this debate involves non-Japanese people. My Japanese girlfriend says it's a non-issue with J-peeps. As she puts it, only non-Japan "otaku" and fanatics argue over something so trivial.
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Uberbiggie Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013  Hobbyist
You're right it is trivial but we both can agree that many manga artists and animators alike add their styles into the melting pot and after a while this makes people wonder what is authentic and what's not. I personally believe that people are afraid of anime losing/forgetting it's roots. That's why people make such a big deal out of it.
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theGrungeWerX Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I see your point, but couldn't it be said that their fear is less about what's authentic and more about no longer seeing their favorite trends that once defined anime for a previous generation?

The look of anime was always born from those designers and their respective styles. It was never going to stay the same as long as new manga/anime artists and conceptual designers came along.

Those roots are simply style. And style will always evolve and change from individual to individual.

The best thing that can happen to anime is that it's constantly evolving and changing and growing. Sure, we'll miss the older styles as new artists come along, but that's what BluRay is for. :D So we can always go back and enjoy that older stuff.

Truth be told, I miss some of the "classic look" of some older anime, but I also welcome new ideas. I'm not bound to the past. We can only appreciate our favorite creators while they're here (shoutout to Hayao Miyazaki and Toriyama) and hope that new, innovate creators come along in the future. I'm a big fan of the works of Shinichiro Watanabe, Yoshiaki Kawajiri, Takeshi Koike and just about any animator who is a proponent of Kanada-styled animation. I hope it's here forever, but I'll never say that someone who doesn't do that style isn't 'authentic'.

Of course, these are just my opinions and I don't have any sort of "authorship" on the subject. :P

Anyway, thanks for hearing me out and taking my opinions with an open mind.
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Uberbiggie Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013  Hobbyist
I agree with you completely. At the end of the day people want to see different styles and like the nostalgia of seeing classics. I've enjoyed this educated discussion :D
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Uberbiggie Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013  Hobbyist
Or hardcore appreciators of the subject anyways.
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balgus82 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013
If I'm not mistaken in Japan the word "anime" is used for ALL animation. 
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theGrungeWerX Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Right. Amazing how a bunch of fanboys can totally miss the point.
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Vizo119 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013
Thanks for the fun fact!
I had no idea.
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GrnAce Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes Indeed.
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DonoArtz Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Student General Artist
huh, the more you know
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NotSoPWNingSora Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i always thought they looked like they could have inspired one or the other 
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PhoenixRoy Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's crazy how we influence each other, but also how now a days everyone is hesitant to say what influenced them.
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LeSeanThomas Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I agree. There's a lot of artists who are clearly following the path of another artist if you look closely enough, but they will deny their direct influences for the fear of being labeled "unoriginal." I think admitting your direct influences serves as a form of inspiration to learning artists. Nothing is original anymore. 
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KCampbell499 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Student General Artist
I did not know that! How awesome! :D
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Viethra-Schepherd Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013
People say anime eyes are too big, but the shows that influenced my way of drawing eyes actually were anime, and I draw them at basically realistic proportions. Culture, style, it all changes and it is a product of the minds across an entire planet. People should have the wisdom to appreciate western and eastern animation. They are both incredible in their own ways, and sometimes, in very similar ways as well.
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ravensdojo Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013
Surprised the manga haters that DON'T know this!
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LeSeanThomas Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Some of it is denial. Some of it is judging art with an ethnocentric lens. 
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HIROmanga Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I new this.
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HIROmanga Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
knew**
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Kirite Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Student Digital Artist
My gawd that's amazing.
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GMrDrew Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Professional Filmographer
#funFact :)
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ellisthree Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013   Traditional Artist
mind blown
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LeSeanThomas Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Another mind-blowing fact: Max Fleischer took the BETTY BOOP signature song routine from black singer "Baby Esther" Jones and her inspired look from Esther routine-thief  Helen Kane. Helen Kane, who secretly STOLE the singing act which inspired Betty Boop's whole routine tried to sue the Fleischers for $250k for copyright infringement ( which she did not have she stole it from Esther Jones). Black folks inadvertenly played a role in the early origins of anime. We're always making shit that people steal, lol. 
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ellisthree Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013   Traditional Artist
ha!
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meowchi75 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's the circle of influence 
and it moves us all :iconmufasalaughplz:
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Lenivaya Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Hobbyist
:thumbsup:
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RyanOttley Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Professional Artist
Very cool! Didn't know that!
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LeSeanThomas Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Animation art history FTW!
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Imass21 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Student Digital Artist
nice, learn something new every day
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MichaelCrichlow Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013
*play jingle* "And now you know..." :D
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Jerome-K-Moore Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Professional Filmographer
So let it be rewritten.  So let it be known.
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LeSeanThomas Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Yessir!
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Chadwick-J-Coleman Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Word.
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Sour-Shock Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Student General Artist
I knew that anime was originally inspired by American cartoons, but I didn't know so few people knew that heheh. :giggle:
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cjjuzang Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Professional General Artist
LOL yeah the world does influence the world. Always loved Tezuks's BLACK JACK series, simple style and animation but the stories were up there with Golgo 13 (PG 17 or R)
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Soulbrotha Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And learning has occurred. Thanks for the knowledge.
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